Changelog #327

ok so most level 9 spoilers are always valued from 1m - 1.5m I think this is a good starting value for this spoiler , most s31 items have gotten a value already except of this spoiler I'm pretty sure , this spoiler only has like 220 of it in circulation uptil now and over all I think its a pretty mid looking spoiler ngl but yeah as I said before I think that it should start at 1m as most of the level 9 spoilers before it .

Common Trades :

Roadster + Eclaire for Stinger Scythe

Guitar Riff for Stinger Scythe

Snow Cannon for Stinger Scythe

skibidi dibbity pibbity ts thing is falling as bad as clean variant, clean is already falling to 32m while most forgot that duped celsior is even worse. It takes sum real patience to get proto for clean celsior alone, but with duped variant you'd be lucky to get laser. pls speed nerf 350 letter essay

common trades:

laser cannon for d celsior

proto for d celsior + 2.5-3.5m add

okay, as we all know, widow had its fall. Although it had its fall, it still manages to be good as an add in bigger trades, and is still debated to be better than the brick car. Ever since a week ago when it was going down in value, lots of people were giving 2m for it. But now that its stable, its starting to recover in trading and is capable of getting 2.5mil still, and again, works good as adds in bigger trades. As i said about the demand and the brick car debate, widow seems to get more trades then brick car, and does better in adds then brick car. And since it does, i personally think widow shouldnt be frequently lowballed, as its still capable of getting decent trades and still works great as an add, and the capability of it getting better offers then brick car does. Yes, black widow is avoided, and normally doesnt go well at all when trading it for things like, wedge or polaire, but i still think it would be much better putting it at the occasionally lowballed state, as its true 😭

so who is genuinely willing to give 11m for this flying egg like this item struggles to pull raptor even if you add a bit , volt 4x4 owners wouldn't even dare to add a black beard/maverick for this #### . There's genuinely no one looking for a crew capsule rn , like the only people that would come up to offer for your crew capsule are the kids with nothing but a concept and a roadster . Crew is trash right now it can't even pull 11m in downgrades , so I think crew needs a drop.

Common Trades :

Volt 4x4 + 1m obt

Pari + revox

Carb / Mac + Bandit

Might be Very High Demand

Javelin.. U mean My Heartvein? Ok sorry for that again. Lets come to the point here jav is 51m and can we get one at 51m? Hel no. Can we get at 52m? Maybe wit luck. 53-55m? Yes! Not to Mention people even want 55m+ for their javs (c/d) . Duped Or Clean both get overpays easily. Since the torp rising/manipulation this car has been the single handed high demanded and most cash value car ingame leaving proto p1 beig behind. So we can agree the duped or the clean both get ops.

This should be a no-brainer but somehow everybody suggesting this has been mass downvoted. It really is ridiculous.

Shogun just isn't possible to get for 6.5. Orion Airtail has become widely recognized as a Scorp offer and so, when people offer that for Shogun, owners ask for adds, if they dont just flat out decline you right then and there. The standard for Shogun has become 2 3.5ms and Shogun owners will deadass decline you sometimes if they dont like the 3.5s your giving. Even when Shogun owners downgrade to scorp, they usually want an add of either a 1m cosmetic or a 1m obt: they wont take a 500k add.

When cars like Carb, Scorp, and Mac all have a similar note, its just weird that we would make Shogun the outlier considering it consistently pulls 2 Orions

Common Trades:

Shogun for 2 Orions

Shogun Orion for 4x4

Scorp 1m for Shogun

Ellenjoelover49, #number 1 thruster lover aka thrusters lover, aka I’m married to thrusters, andddd apparently according to changelogs the duped variant is only “occasionally avoided, and lowballed”🕊️ I’m not joking if you gave me the option of getting rid of 5 torpedos or 2 duped thrusters I’m choosing getting rid of 6 torpedos, duped thrusters are actually horrible, they NEVER pull base, and are actually the worst dupe in the game, like owners will GLADLY take a 1.5m lowball with proto, does that sound like an occasionally lowballed avoided? Also NOBODY wants duped thrusters, advertise these as duped and you won’t get a singular offer, and trying to explain how bad they are will actually short circuit your brain lol, like even now as I write this suggestion, I’m struggling to articulate my thoughts, because duped thrusters are so bad, I want to violently shout that they #### ####, and should be dropped by 4m. I’m sorry, anyways you get the memo ✌️

Alright so Cobra at decent made sense when we had cars like Shell or Brick at medium. However, now that both of those are at low demand, I don’t see why cobra should still be at decent. Compared to Polaire, Wedge, and Bloxy, Cobra is significantly less wanted. It’s viewed as one of the lesser 2.5ms, like how Poseidon is and is often requested to be replaced with better 2.5ms like Bloxy or Polaire. I think medium demand for it is fair.

I’ll be nice in this suggestion, because realistically this should be 30.5m or even less but. The one the only, the notorious purple 4. Notorious for not even being 1:1 with proto, and receiving 3-4m lowballs, and for whatever reason still being listed, at the wrong value now don’t get me wrong, bad demand should stay bad demand, but at least slightly drop it, so it makes more sense why it isn’t 1:1 with proto, because demand diff doesn’t USUALLY justify taking a 2m lowball unless the vehicle/item is dropping, but besides proto, getting even power 1+matching adds is #### not even, power 1+7m adds is difficult now, #### People have offered me purple 4 for p1+5m adds ✌️, showing how horrible it’s doing, now obviously we can’t “overdrop” anything it won’t get approved so I’ll suggest a tiny 500k drop.

Common trades

Proto—>Purp 4(doesn’t happen just filler)

Power 1+aper—>Pup 4

Power 1+2 Orions—->purp 4

Hello everyone, this is my first suggestion yay. Before I explain about why I think Celsior needs to go down to 32m I want to say that I am a HUGE Celsior fan. I have 3k+ miles on Celsior (more than any vehicle for me) and I find the car very convenient to have and I also enjoy the design, however I can admit that Celsior is not doing great and many don't like the Celsior and it makes sense as to why people don't like it: your paying 30m+ for a car that's 40mph slower than a Bionic and barely lifts off the ground. Celsior is more of a hover car than a aerial vehicle and the speed doesn't really make up for the low flying height. I personally believe that Celsior, along with Torpedo and Proto are overpriced but that's not what we're here to talk about.

Celsior hasn't been doing good in trading recently and it struggles to pull Proto ALONE. I don't see any Proto user adding for Celsior and most Proto users decline for just Celsior alone because of its low demand and decreasing value. I think Celsior is a great vehicle but for now it needs to go down in value. The future doesn't look great for this car unfortunately.

Common Trades

C Celsior for Proto (if your super lucky)

C Celsior for P1 + Aper (again, if your lucky)

C Celsior for fair / underpay downgrade

Hear me out on this one. Spiked isnt as bad as a lot of people think, in fact it is not really even avoided. Many people would do fair for it, which is not fitting for an item with low demand. A lot of people would even do aper for it, which is a decent demand item. A low demand item should be avoided and lowballed a lot, but that does not apply to spiked, which is why i think we should change it

This has always been a weird one, but Idk why isnt this being suggested yet but spiked only gets 7.5m at max, and no more. Everyone knows that spiked for aper is an automatic win, which is 7.5m. So if an item only gets 7.5m max, why should it be 8m? As for this, I think spiked should be 7.5m, which would be more accurate.

Common trades:

Spiked for aper

Spiked for carb + storm