12 changes • Posted on November 19, 2025 at 06:39 PM
Snow shovel has been doing trash for a while now, this thing cannot consistently pull base value from collectors even, you'd be lucky to even find a collector and THEN for them to give you base value for it, most common trades that collectors might give are crew cap or 14m downgrade. only a very tiny % of desperate collectors might give you 15m but you would be more likely to get a hyperchrome than to find someone like this. For those reasons, i suggest the note change.
when was the last time a collector overpaid for drip gun skin?? it only pulls base at most, and mostly in medium demand. drip gun skin hasnt been doing well for a while, due to being a gun skin, and it is also overshadowed by things like duped icebreaker or m12. drip gun skin is just not worth getting unless your a collector, since drip gs is mostly a collectors item, with no demand from the general trading community. overall, drip gs should have its note updated, since most collectors will not overpay for this, not even the most known ones.
cannonfire has recently been avoided alot in both upgrades in downgrades due to its horrible demand. most of the time in an upgrade it will be asked to be swapped for a 2m cosmetic, and nobody really looks for cannonfire alone. cannonfire hasn't been really doing well in general, since its hype has died long ago, and after that this has started to become avoided unlike a few months ago where cannonfire was doing decent. overall, cannonfire should have this note since it has terrible demand as of right now, and is always asked to be swapped during trades.
As well all know icebreaker has been doing very well in trading, And the duped varation is no exception. With the recent rise of the Clean icebreaker to 18.5M, The duped variant was wrongfully left behind. Its common knowledge that when the clean value rises 500K, The duped variant follows. Dupe icebreaker is doing very well in trading aswell, Being very sought after and still able to receive frequent overpays. This change is needed to reflect how the D icebreaker is doing in trading.
Common trades: D Ice -> Aper + Pari D Ice -> M12 + Volt D Ice -> 2X Scorp + Orion
Ok so first goliath has already gained its demand since there’s many hoarders hoard goliath and they’re still giving overpays for it, also now goliath is rare to find on island since all hoarders wiped em out, still goliath is wanted and frequently getting overpays so id see this note for goliath is perfect.
This is also just like aper, it can get overpays only in down grades. People commonly give snake+air or snake+brulee and also sometimes bandit+revox. Over all this makes the items listing on the site more accurate to what the overall performance of the vehicle in trading. For these reasons scorpion should have the note "Occasionally gets overpays in downgrades".
opposite to my previous 22/23 shift suggestion the 25 shift is currently overvalued, with some changes to previous 25 hyper5 values they currently only add up to 390.5m (75 + 75 + 62 + 49 + 47 + 36.5 + 26 + 20). its pretty obvious that the current 25 shift is quite overpriced keeping it at a whole 20m above what it should be makes literally no sense
common trades: 25 shift -> 390.5m in limited items
it is known that banana car has been avoided for quite a while now. due to its low demand, banana rarely ever gets treated as a 17.5m item, and more of a 17m item. banana has been mostly overshadowed by icebreaker, since it is currently rising and has good demand, and even m12 is better than it since it pulls good downgrades. banana overall has not been doing well right now, having been medium demand like crew for quite a while now, and it should drop to 17m since it does not have good demand and rarely ever pulls its base value as of right now.
COMMON TRADES banana for m12 + storm/agent banana + a 3.5m for drip x2 banana for celsior
Shogun is kinda like aper, it can get op in downgrades but not in upgrades. Shogun commonly gets 7m such as carb+revox (which is a downgrade). This change in note just makes the item listing more accurate to newer traders, who dont know it can get op in downgrades, making it easier for them to learn values and pull values. For these reasons Shogun's note should go to "Occasionally gets overpays in downgrades."
lets be deadass rn this is one of the most out dated notes rn. Blue 4 is still hard to find but recently it lost every lick of demand it once had, and is dropping. Right now absolutely nobody wants blue 4 as its very avoided(which is why im suggesting this change). Blue 4 is just terrible in trading but it is still rare to find (since it still has a 90 unique circulation). For these reasons Blue 4 should go to the note "Very hard to find, frequently avoided and lowballed".
Goliath has been doing exceptionally well in trading recently, with people realising how rare this item is. As more and more people look/trade for it, goliath owners no longer take 6m for their goliath as they know they can easily get 6.5m overpays. Goliath has seen a great rise in demand and value and it is very hard to get goliath for 6m, which is why i think goliath should be set at 6.5m.
Common trades:
scorp + adds for goliath shogun for goliath + small add orion + any 3m for goliath
honestly surprised ionize doesnt have this note yet. any educated trader knows about ionize's current poor state in trading, being unable to pull many fair offers as of late, and the majority of traders trading theirs away for less than base as long as the demand is alright. a lot of collectors already have this rim, so its not anything special for them and your average trader doesnt want this either, knowing how bad its been doing lately, and this note is needed to reflect ionize's poor performance as of late.
