13 changes • Posted on November 11, 2025 at 06:51 PM

mk idk how my last post didnt get accepted but let me try for a 2nd time. No icebreaker isnt avoided, no icebreaker isnt lowballed and no icebreaker isnt low demand. let me be clear this vehicle hit some of its lowest, lows in turn? people are starting to invest in it for rebound value which already sets the flare for the fire, and i can assure you that people aren't shying away from this vehicle anymore the c version can consistently pull 18mil in downgrades with little effort and the d version can gravitate m12s and 15mil downgrades. To put it this it simply isnt bad anymore, its recovering combined with the fact that its December next month only increases the potential, and the factor as to why people are starting to take it off their NLF lists.

if you think you have a shot at getting orange 5 2025 for even close to 36 mil you'd be foolish, this items pulls damn near 38m and is never considered 36m in both upgrades and downgrades. ik all the orange hyper are currently getting overshadowed by pinks but orange is still a great hyper and arguably some crazy future potential, orange 5 2025 is absolutely not 36m and can easily pull even offers of smth like proto and aperture, but ill only suggest to bump it up 500k for now
common trades: -orange 5 2025 for celsior + orion -orange 5 2025 + cobra for beignet

OK so snowflake at 5m is just innacurate at this point. People will ALWAYS reject a base offer or 500k op. Hoarders are doing 10M for this, and its becoming increasingly rarer. You may already know that that one guy ows a whopping 75% of the snowflake circ, and with other people trying to cash out to the hoarders, snowflake is CONSTANTLY overpaid for. IT IS PRACTICALY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET AT BASE, AND VERY RARE TO FIND. Therefore, i think this 500k rise should happen
common trades (i did not forget yay!!!): scorp ---> snowflake mac/carb ----> snowflake snowflake ---> aper (if lucky)

Alright let’s be honest almost no one looks for green 4, it’s usually avoided and almost never gets ops from grinders, and it’s mid demand doesn’t make sense since people barely look for it as i said only grinders take it they barely pay, and if u get it most of the time hardly to trade it off.

Doing the same thing as banana rn, we don't need this hella long of a note on beam hybrid, occasionally pulls ops makes sense for both variants, not just duped, I've gotten ops on my c beam hybrid a few times around 19.5m (20m only if its medium demand), the rare to find part for both usually doesnt make sense, but C is rare to find and nowdays, I hardly can spot beam at all, both variants are rare, but C variant is definitely still rarer.

Okay so i think arachnids note is just generally too long. And Occasionally avoided basically conveys the same thing as "Clean variant mostly receives fair, duped variants avoided and lowballed." But you could argue it doesnt convey that dupe variants are avoided and lowballed, but Occasionally Avoided basically is a summary of the item, arachnid isn't super avoided in general but it also isnt good in generally and over all offers a better summary of the item. For these reason Arachnid's note should be changed to Occasionally Avoided.

The last part of the note is not needed and im going to explain why. All high tiers if were referring to downgrades, ANY high tier receives overpays in downgrades (500k, occasionally 1m) so theres no point in a HIGH tier to have "occasionally gets overpays in downgrades" when practically EVERY car gets an overpay of SOME KIND in a downgrade. This note is more useful and fitting for P1.

unless your trading with a grinder almost no one is willing to accept a pink3 as an add or alone, right now literally every single hyper3 is mega #### and this is no exception, occasionally avoided is quite an understatement when its nearly impossible to trade off to most traders

snowstorm gs has been horrible for a while now, snowstorm txt and gs got hoarded and was hyped weeks ago but now that all that hype is long gone both of these have been mid since then and although the txt stabilized a 8m but this with no hype most traders dont want it at all due to being a gs. not even many collectors want this and most snowstorm gs owners are stuck with theirs unable to find someone who wants it using it as an overpay add or accepting underpays just to get rid of it and it makes no sense that this is higher then something like brickset tire style or icicle
common trades: snowstorm gs -> brickset tire style snowstorm gs -> green3 snowstorm gs -> dia2 + mav

no collector is giving an overpay for this, they barely ever even give base for it. there is close to no one looking for snowstorm gs right now and the very few who are like i said before will never give an overpay. the current note is extremely outdated and should be changed
Quarter Dollar Rim is over a year old now. 50k was a fair placeholder value back when season 22 just came out because of how common it was but 250k is a more accurate placeholder value for this rim in late 2025. Common Trades: Quarter Dollar for any random 250K cosmetic. Quarter Dollar for any 200k ballpark obtainable car

again idk how this never got the rare to find label slapped on it because red 4 is pretty rare, having a monthly unique of 130 and definitely not a usual occurrence to spot on trade island or even discord for that matter, literally nothing else in the note needs changing though as red 4 is pretty #### awful right now, only the rare to find part was added in my suggestion which seems valid for an item of this rarity.